New "Pied Blue" Guppy Strain

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Pied Blue Guppy

One of the benefits of my ten year long campaign to decipher the genetics of common guppy strains is that I have stumbled upon new strains. Like the guppy you see above.

The guppy is a combination of the Stoerzbach Metal Sword and Lace Snakeskin strains. You can see the evidence of the Stoerzbach father in the shape of the dorsal and a hint of double swords in the caudal fin. The overall blue cast of the body is the expression of the autosomal recessive Stoerzbach gene, which gives the father line a solid blue body color. The snakeskin gene is expressed in the mottled dark blue / black pattern of the body and fins. It is also expressed in the overall yellow platinum color.

Interesting thing that: the platinum color emerging out of a snakeskin cross. It confirms what I speculated about in the Galaxy series of crosses. Yellow platinum is a key component of the snakeskin complex.

I have documented this new strain in the Design Lab book which is unpublished. The first generation of the cross produced beautiful swordtail snakeskins. This phenotype emerged in the second generation. The reason it did is because the Stoerzbach gene is autosomal recessive, so it would not influence the phenotype until the second generation. What is interesting is that the Stoerzbach gene, which affects the expression of the iridophores, has almost completely suppressed expression of the snakeskin gene.

My reason for doing the cross in the first place was to see if I could produce a Micariff by combining the Stoerzbach and snakeskin genes. Obviously the simple combination of these genes does not produce the Micariff phenotype. Ronan Boutot tells me that the half-black gene and perhaps red is necessary. That happens to chime with something I was told about the origins of the Micariff. It is supposed to have been created from a cross between a half-black red and a snakeskin strain. Perhaps the combination is Stoerzbach + snakeskin + red + half-black. I am going to try that combination.

I have actually seen a similar phenotype to this one before.

F2 Green Lace X Full Platinum

The guppy emerged from a cross between a Green Lace male and Full Platinum female. You can see in the dark pied markings the expression of the snakeskin gene and in the overall yellow platinum color the expression of the Full Platinum Mg (Metallic Gold) gene. The obvious difference between the two strains is the presence of blue metallic color in the Stoerzbach cross. I abandone the Green Lace X Full Platinum phenotype and have always regretted that as pied beauty is something I really love in animals.

Compare this guppy to a Micariff.

Micariff

The Micariff has a much smoother, shinier and metallic look compared to the two previous phenotypes. So the formula cannot be simply Stoerzbach + snakeskin.

I am going to continue to hunt down the genetic formula for a Micariff. But that leaves me with this interesting new phenotype. I really like it. I can see a potential for creating a swordtail strain from this male. I actually have a whole tank of them now and plan to continue their development. I have decided to call it the "Pied Blue Guppy" after Hopkin's poem ("Pied Beauty").

What is really interesting about this phenotype is that it mixes yellow platinum from the snakeskin side with blue from the Stoerzbach side, yet these two colors don't mix and become green. Normally that is how you produce a green guppy. Blue iridophores sit below a layer of yellow pigment cells. The yellow filters the blue to a green color. Why this is not happening in this case is a bit of a mystery. I have never seen this in guppies before. That in itself is a good reason for keeping this new strain.

Addendum

After writing this article I was going through some old images I collected ten years ago, and discovered one of the guppies I had found on another site looked almost identical to the Pied Blue guppy. (I cannot show the picture here because of its unknown origin and presumed copyright.) I believe it was from a Japanese web site.

Comments  

 
0 #1 bandit 2010-11-11 19:22
http://www.guppywiki.be/index.php/Micariff

from this, which fish is the Micariff. this wiki page is deceptive.

good looking fish, the pied blue. can see the snakeskin patterning although it is covered by the metal.
 
 
0 #2 admin 2010-11-11 19:32
I have updated the blog with the Micariff picture and described it a bit. Added a bit about the influence of the Stoerzbach gene on the snakeskin pattern...
 
 
0 #3 bandit 2010-11-11 19:36
i read this but why do the same combination of genes have differing expressions.ie the german sunset? this confuses me no end as to say that the expression is filtered again through another gene not being mentioned. the "mutation".
 
 
0 #4 admin 2010-11-11 19:52
I agree with you Wil. That Belgium Wiki is way out of date. You should use the most current version on this site. See the entry for Micariff:

www.guppydesigner.com/index.php/strains-wiki/105-stoerzbach/501-micariff

I have removed the ambiguity about the German Sunset strain.

I have edited the entry to remove the ambiguity about the "German Sunset" strain.

I think the Micariff shown there is the "base strain."
 
 
0 #5 admin 2010-11-11 20:04
I have removed the ambiguity in the Wiki entry about the German Sunset strain...
Philip
 
 
0 #6 bandit 2010-11-14 15:29
try crossing the pied blue with the HB red genes to see what results.
 
 
0 #7 admin 2010-11-14 18:20
Wil I will do that once I get the Pied Blue to produce 100% Pied Blue offspring. That will eliminate other genes that might make my results questionable.

Meanwhile I have set up a half-black red with a yellow snakeskin female. That will be an interesting test, as it is the original formula for a Micariff.

Thanks for your continue interest and comments on my efforts.

Philip
 
 
0 #8 bandit 2010-11-14 20:01
i would assume the snakeskin with the HB would produce a HB AOC. but this is a guess and not a known.
 
 
0 #9 admin 2010-11-14 21:11
Yes, that is correct. But I wonder if one or two Micariffs might appear. Worth checking out...
 
 
0 #10 villa1973 2010-11-15 07:00
well phillip i once had a strain of yellow snakes and they got some sort of pinkish coloration in the body, later on i got just one male that look like a micariff, so it migth be not so unfounded.
i think stoerbach, snakeskin and something else, maybe homocigot for stoerbach.many questions
 

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